Swing Tire Gate Thingy by A.J. @ Bentup

rogersja63 · 06-10-2007, 07:59 PM

What am I supposed to call this, a tire gate, swing gate or what? Anyway thought I would start a new thread since this is really a different subject than the rear bumper itself which A.J. also made. A.J. did great work, as usual. Here's the pic's-

Here's what I managed to get done while A.J. was busy welding

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NorCalTRD · 06-10-2007, 08:05 PM

nice, looks good! does it move around on ya at all when you hit any bumps?

rogersja63 · 06-10-2007, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NorCalTRD

nice, looks good! does it move around on ya at all when you hit any bumps?

Solid as a rock. To say A.J. builds things solid would be an huge understatement.

Timbuddha · 06-10-2007, 10:31 PM

Simple, functional, bullet proof. I like it!!

Tim

tonestoyo06 · 06-10-2007, 10:31 PM

very impressive work!

MrGrimm · 06-10-2007, 11:09 PM

nice, very nice. how do you like the ARE shell? i see that it doesnt completely cover the bed. is it a topper that is specifically made for the short bed? just wondering because i have seen other ARE's and they completely cover the sides. I am looking to go the same route as far as topper options with the flip out sides.

rogersja63 · 06-10-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by MrGrimm

nice, very nice. how do you like the ARE shell? i see that it doesnt completely cover the bed. is it a topper that is specifically made for the short bed? just wondering because i have seen other ARE's and they completely cover the sides. I am looking to go the same route as far as topper options with the flip out sides.

I like it a lot, very good quality and workmanship.

Covers the bed perfectly and yes it is specifically made for the regular bed Tacoma. The double cabs are the only model I know of with "short" and/or regular sized beds. AFAIK, Access Cabs (such as mine) only get the regular size bed.

Anyway, I didn't want the style that completely covered the bed rails. Makes the truck look to much like an SUV and the bottom edges of the shell sticks out a little on those kind in order to cover the plastic bed rail. IMO, that style looked like crap on the truck in real life when I did a test fit to see which one I wanted.

I highly recommend the "Windoors" as ARE calls them. I use them everyday.

marnes2986 · 06-11-2007, 12:21 AM

simple and clean....lines up on the bedside pretty well.

arrowpilot · 06-11-2007, 07:54 AM

Call it a "Badass Spare Tire Hootus".

TBob · 06-11-2007, 08:29 AM

Not strong enough! good luck with it.

Philfab · 06-11-2007, 10:22 AM

Where did you source the hinge/pivot from?

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Philfab

Where did you source the hinge/pivot from?

You'ld have to call A.J. and see where he buys them. Sorry.

TBob · 06-11-2007, 11:10 AM

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm

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Originally Posted by Philfab

Where did you source the hinge/pivot from?

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TBob

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm

Kinda the same except mine has no grease fittings and it's rated for a 3500lb axle.

hytenor · 06-11-2007, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by rogersja63

that catch needs a safety!

otherwise looks good. only time will tell if he put enough gusseting on the tire mount.

just check everything now and then for any stress cracks.

TBob · 06-11-2007, 01:45 PM

I'm curious if the latch can even lock at that angle. They are designed to latch at a 90 deg angle if so no catch is necessary.

hytenor · 06-11-2007, 02:00 PM

Is that catch the only thing holding the end of the swing out to the bumper? If so I would add a spring loaded pin like I see on the other side that has a good, long throw.

jsnby · 06-11-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TBob

http://www.rockstomper.com/catalog/pieces/hinge.htm

AJ actually sources the hinges from 4x4 labs (or at least he did on the one he built me). The spindle is 1.75" thick instead of 1.25" thick.

http://www.4x4labs.com/products/index.html

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by hytenor

that catch needs a safety!

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Originally Posted by TBob

I'm curious if the latch can even lock at that angle. They are designed to latch at a 90 deg angle if so no catch is necessary.

What the hell are you guys talking about?

The latch has a "trigger" that you have to pull in order to open the mechanism. Doesn't matter what angle it's installed at and the trigger is the safety feature. You guys must be thinking of a different latch. I'll take a better picture of it when I get home tonight.

hytenor · 06-11-2007, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by rogersja63

What the hell are you guys talking about?

The latch has a "trigger" that you have to pull in order to open the mechanism. Doesn't matter what angle it's installed at and the trigger is the safety feature. You guys must be thinking of a different latch. I'll take a better picture of it when I get home tonight.

Ok, but I'd still put some sort of safety/pin on that latch that prevents the trigger from separating...I just don't trust them. I'd also probably add a spring-loaded pin, like the other end has, mounted about 2" from the end of that bar (through the bar and into the bumper) for overkill

can you flex that can mount (with a full can) at all foreward/backward?

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by hytenor

Ok, but I'd still put some sort of safety/pin on that latch that prevents the trigger from separating...I just don't trust them. I'd also probably add a spring-loaded pin, like the other end has, mounted about 2" from the end of that bar (through the bar and into the bumper) for overkill

can you flex that can mount (with a full can) at all foreward/backward?

I'll take a picture later. I hear what you're saying and might have to do something if it doesn't hold up under trail testing but under normal use this latch would never come undone.

Nope the can is full now and with a very hard push/pull from the top of the can there is no flex at all . I'll keep my eye on the welds though.

hytenor · 06-11-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by rogersja63

I'll take a picture later. I hear what you're saying and might have to do something if it doesn't hold up under trail testing but under normal use this latch would never come undone.

Nope the can is full now and with a very hard push/pull from the top of the can there is no flex at all . I'll keep my eye on the welds though.

I don't expect things to move but though I'd ask anyway.
AJ and Demello have been of the "if it can move it will break" school of thought for some time now

Wgasa84 · 06-11-2007, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hytenor

I don't expect things to move but though I'd ask anyway.
AJ and Demello have been of the "if it can move it will break" school of thought for some time now

You act like that is a bad thing to think?

hytenor · 06-11-2007, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Wgasa84

You act like that is a bad thing to think?

yea?? eventually metal fatigue will bust a weld if there isn't enough gusseting...ask Jay. Driving down the street is one thing...blazing down a bunch of dirt roads is another

TEJASYOTA · 06-11-2007, 06:17 PM

Nice bumper design. But I fear that it is not braced well enough.
The entire load is rearward (see your photo).

Even with that triangle brace that is mounted on the tire rack, will not prevent it from over stressing (when you start off roading). There should be a brace towards the rear side of that box tubing. Maybe you can get someone to add two more pieces of flat plate to the rear side of that tire brace - making it a sort of pyramid shape. Then do the same thing for the gas tank holder.

But then that is my humble engineering opinion.

cell4soul · 06-11-2007, 07:26 PM

I don't want to steal the thread, but this is how we supported my tire carrier. I've beat the shit out of this truck and even had the tire hitting the ground while backing off of a steep hill and it has held up perfectly.

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phoenix · 06-11-2007, 08:32 PM

Bah

I woulda made it outta plywood and staples

IMO

But seriously I think it looks great Rodger . im jeleous

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by cell4soul

I don't want to steal the thread, but this is how we supported my tire carrier. I've beat the shit out of this truck and even had the tire hitting the ground while backing off of a steep hill and it has held up perfectly.

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Nice work!!

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 09:19 PM

Here's the latch I was referring to above, I don't see how it can come undone all by itself. Anyone experience this with the same latch?

rogersja63 · 06-11-2007, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TEJASYOTA

Nice bumper design. But I fear that it is not braced well enough.
The entire load is rearward (see your photo).

Even with that triangle brace that is mounted on the tire rack, will not prevent it from over stressing (when you start off roading). There should be a brace towards the rear side of that box tubing. Maybe you can get someone to add two more pieces of flat plate to the rear side of that tire brace - making it a sort of pyramid shape. Then do the same thing for the gas tank holder.

But then that is my humble engineering opinion.

It's braced as well or better as any bumper built with the 2x4 material laid flat, probably a little more weld area because it is on an angle. How often do you have the space to add supporting material going back toward the tailgate?

I agree with you though, since it is on an angle I do have room to add some more gussets and it would be stronger that way. Good idea!

06-10-2007, 07:59 PM	#1
rogersja63 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 803	Swing Tire Gate Thingy by A.J. @ Bentup What am I supposed to call this, a tire gate, swing gate or what? Anyway thought I would start a new thread since this is really a different subject than the rear bumper itself which A.J. also made. A.J. did great work, as usual. Here's the pic's- Here's what I managed to get done while A.J. was busy welding - __________________ 2007 Tundra 4x4, 5.7L, 6sp, Limited: Stock! Last edited by rogersja63; 06-10-2007 at 08:11 PM.

06-10-2007, 10:31 PM	#5
tonestoyo06 Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Allen, TX Posts: 419	very impressive work! __________________ 06' Prerunner K&N CAI Banks Exhaust Mickey Thompson 315/70/17 ATZ Mickey Thompson Classic Locks

06-11-2007, 12:21 AM	#8
marnes2986 Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Corona/Anaheim, Ca Posts: 2,086	simple and clean....lines up on the bedside pretty well. __________________ ~MARK ......Anti-BRO Florent Fabrication DMZ Fab and Race Prep

06-11-2007, 07:54 AM	#9
arrowpilot Veteran Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Alvin, Texas Posts: 687	*Call it a "Badass Spare Tire Hootus".* __________________ 06 TRD Sport, Dub Cab, 4x4 285/70/17 ATR's on ProComp 17x9 8179's Shrockworks Winch Bumper, Sliders and Bottle Opener OME 886 Front, AirLift Rear

06-11-2007, 08:29 AM	#10
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06-10-2007, 11:09 PM	#6
MrGrimm Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: 21-26'30'' N 157-45'01'' W Posts: 312	nice, very nice. how do you like the ARE shell? i see that it doesnt completely cover the bed. is it a topper that is specifically made for the short bed? just wondering because i have seen other ARE's and they completely cover the sides. I am looking to go the same route as far as topper options with the flip out sides.

06-11-2007, 10:22 AM	#11
Philfab Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Lower Puget Sound, WA Posts: 681	Where did you source the hinge/pivot from? __________________ 'Ol Bumpy SAS'd '96 3RZ/W59 x-cab 3-link w/EB coils, Scout II box, double-ended hydro assist, 4.88's, some Ballistic Fab bracketry... NEW! Budbuilt Clocking Adapter install (no bodylift) My Chevy leaf swap guide Bed trim write-up Parking brake mod NOTE I respond faster to emails than forum postings. Check my user profile for my email address. I will answer any dumb tech question you may have, just don't spam me.

06-11-2007, 01:45 PM	#16
TBob Built II Beat Fabrication Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 6,508	I'm curious if the latch can even lock at that angle. They are designed to latch at a 90 deg angle if so no catch is necessary. __________________ Built II Beat Fabrication Had God not driven man from the Garden of Eden, the Sierra Club would have. Triple sticks Potato Salad Martinez Upper Ajax Pritchet Canyon

06-11-2007, 07:26 PM	#26
cell4soul Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Back in SoCal Posts: 639	I don't want to steal the thread, but this is how we supported my tire carrier. I've beat the shit out of this truck and even had the tire hitting the ground while backing off of a steep hill and it has held up perfectly. [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] [IMG][/IMG] __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2808...98983477Nxigkq http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2482...98983477nbbYXw http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2882...98983477tOOPKT http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2454...98983477XfjyaT http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2394...98983477Daqzqo

06-11-2007, 08:32 PM	#27
phoenix Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Calgary Posts: 232	Bah I woulda made it outta plywood and staples IMO But seriously I think it looks great Rodger . im jeleous __________________ 2007 Double cab TRD Sport MODS: Installed Raider Topper, Lund bug deflector and Dog installed custom piss stain on back seat 3" spacer lift w/ blocks in rear 286/75/16 Dick Cepek FC II, AR Trench wheels 16x8 4.5 bs you cant have manslaughter with out laughter H2's are like tampons every pu$$y needs one

06-11-2007, 09:19 PM	#29
rogersja63 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Maryland Posts: 803	Here's the latch I was referring to above, I don't see how it can come undone all by itself. Anyone experience this with the same latch? __________________ 2007 Tundra 4x4, 5.7L, 6sp, Limited: Stock!

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