Automatic vs. Stick Shift?

borre13 · 08-08-2005, 04:31 PM

I have an inquire for all you guys...I've had a Tacoma for three years (2002 4x4 2.7) I got it brand new and I love it; it hasn't dissapointed me on the various times I've gone to the Mountains in Mexico. but lately I've been thinking of parting with it. The only reason is space inside. I was thinking of trying and get a 4 door one, same thing 4x4, maybe 6 cyl. but also a 2002 or around that year. The only bad thing, or major thing stopping me is that I really like the manual on mine, and I know that the 4 door ones didn't have a Stick Shift before this year. What do you guys think of the Manual Shift Vs. Automatic...specially when off roading?

Dick Foster · 08-08-2005, 04:39 PM

Oh no.

You'll get about a 50/50 split on this one.

Intrepid · 08-08-2005, 04:47 PM

Since Dick wimped out of starting the sh*t...go for a stick, it s part of the challenge. If you HAVE to have a dcab buy an 05...

*sitting back to enjoy the show*

TGilder · 08-08-2005, 04:48 PM

Where do you drive? If you drive in a lot of stop and go traffic with a lot of stop lights, an automatic is easier to live with. And if you want to make it go fast, I think there's more potential with an auto. Otherwise, get the manual. I think it's more fun to drive and more practical. Plus, as long as you've got a hill, you never have to worry about a dead battery keeping you from getting it started.

Bryanccfshr · 08-08-2005, 05:10 PM

If you wanna wheel it, get an auto..You can watch everyone else "challenge"there truck into pieces with sticks and smoking clutches and the crashes and banges that come from them "being challenged"

Dick Foster · 08-08-2005, 05:18 PM

Unless the stick guy happens to have a crawl box. Not that I am all that against slush boxes, I have one in the FJ.

Bryanccfshr · 08-08-2005, 05:33 PM

Yes, a crwler mitigates the sloppy driving of the manuals enough to have a similarity to Finnesse driving . Although a mild crawler gear in an auto would be the best of both worlds.
I like the fact that the sluch box can absorb a little bit of the shock loading.

Dick Foster · 08-08-2005, 05:43 PM

That is exactly what I have in the FJ.

Bryanccfshr · 08-08-2005, 05:53 PM

In the Hemi boys in the charger voice. "SWEET"

Dick Foster · 08-08-2005, 05:57 PM

With Marlins Toy Box bolted to the back of the T350 with a low stall converter, an Atlas T case and the portal hubs, it should poke right along. I need to come to grips with the tire size I intend to run so I can figure out what ratio to put in the diffs.

briansc33 · 08-08-2005, 06:08 PM

Although it might be a bit more of a challenge with a manual I beleive it is a bit more fun,and you have more control."Finnesse driving" yes that is the key with a manual in order for you not to smoke the cluch,break things, and tear the piss out of your tires, but is'nt that true with wheelin' in general? Everybody has there favorite, and I respect that, but I will always wheel' a manual. My

Bryanccfshr · 08-08-2005, 06:08 PM

I have nothing to say Dick. That's going to be a well controlled Mofo.

7wt · 08-08-2005, 07:07 PM

I perfer a stick but it does have it's limitations. Works fine for me but then I'm not crawling rocks.

SurfingDrunk · 08-08-2005, 07:42 PM

if you think about it, don't all the "pro" offroaders use automatics? from prerunner-rockcrawler-monster trucks.

Tweeter · 08-08-2005, 08:21 PM

Damn skippy I'm pretty much the only prerunner I know with an auto

SurfingDrunk · 08-08-2005, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 12Tweeter12

Damn skippy I'm pretty much the only prerunner I know with an auto

"pro" as in hardcore- not mallcore.

Mike · 08-08-2005, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryanccfshr

If you wanna wheel it, get an auto..You can watch everyone else "challenge"there truck into pieces with sticks and smoking clutches and the crashes and banges that come from them "being challenged"

I have a 5 speed and rarely use my clutch while negotiating an obstacle. Now everyone take a moment to bow down to Marlin....

Later,
....Mike

zosimov21 · 08-08-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfingDrunk

"pro" as in hardcore- not mallcore.

dooh!

Dick Foster · 08-09-2005, 10:29 AM

I sure hope so but only time will tell.

Dick Foster · 08-09-2005, 10:32 AM

borre13 · 08-09-2005, 02:14 PM

Thanks guys, I think I'll just stick with my xtra cab, I kind of like the manual shift too...although I've never driven an automatic...maybe I'll go in debt again and get a 2005...

absolut taco · 08-09-2005, 02:24 PM

I really like my stick shift...But I don't go off-road that much. I haven't had to 'crawl' over anything yet. On the other hand, I figured how to do a smooth 1-2 shift. Before I shifted at 2-3,000 and it was kinda jerky. Now I shift into 2nd at 5,000 and it's a lot smoother and the truck goes like a raped ape!

briansc33 · 08-09-2005, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by absolut taco

I really like my stick shift...But I don't go off-road that much. I haven't had to 'crawl' over anything yet. On the other hand, I figured how to do a smooth 1-2 shift. Before I shifted at 2-3,000 and it was kinda jerky. Now I shift into 2nd at 5,000 and it's a lot smoother and the truck goes like a raped ape!

5000!!! Damn thats just about where mine redlines. Do you do that every time you take off?

absolut taco · 08-10-2005, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by briansc33

5000!!! Damn thats just about where mine redlines. Do you do that every time you take off?

No, only when I wanna put some punk in his place.

Maybe twice a day. 4,500 works as well.

Tweeter · 08-10-2005, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfingDrunk

"pro" as in hardcore- not mallcore.

gary briggs · 08-29-2005, 08:25 PM

stick gets about 13% more power to the ground the auto i test drove was a dog compared to the stick STICK+LOCKER= FAN-FUCKIN-TASTICK GOOD TIME

atwinda · 08-29-2005, 09:04 PM

So 50/50 as far as wheeling goes.. Do you live in a place where it snows? Diving an auto in the snow gives you slightly less control (which can be overcome, but with a bit of thought). When you start to slide in a stick whats your rection? Push the clutch in right? in an Auto you can't exactly do that; you can however pop it into N and achieve the same thing.

The other thing is that I have found the brakes on the autos go out faster.. which makes sense. When you go to stop a stick at a light, you push the clutch in, so that the brakes on only stopping the vehicle.. In an auto when you go to stop the wheels are still getting power through the torque converter, so you have to "fight" that, and try to stop the truck- what I am saying is that it takes more effort to stop an auto as far as brakes go.

Tweeter · 08-30-2005, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SurfingDrunk

"pro" as in hardcore- not mallcore.

I'm sorry I don't believe we've met.

Eztrog88 · 08-30-2005, 02:16 PM

Basically, I'm a control freak... You simply have more control with a clutch and 5-speed. Yeah, the auto is a niice brake every once in a while; but I just don't like the idea of pressing a pedal and having a computer decide exactly what you're trying to do. It is a little more of challenge off-road, and onroad for that matter (in snow mostly), but the benefits outway the finess needed IMHO.

JaresTaco · 08-30-2005, 03:30 PM

Love the manual tranny!Good on gas and fun to drive!

08-08-2005, 04:31 PM	#1
borre13 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 8	Automatic vs. Stick Shift? I have an inquire for all you guys...I've had a Tacoma for three years (2002 4x4 2.7) I got it brand new and I love it; it hasn't dissapointed me on the various times I've gone to the Mountains in Mexico. but lately I've been thinking of parting with it. The only reason is space inside. I was thinking of trying and get a 4 door one, same thing 4x4, maybe 6 cyl. but also a 2002 or around that year. The only bad thing, or major thing stopping me is that I really like the manual on mine, and I know that the 4 door ones didn't have a Stick Shift before this year. What do you guys think of the Manual Shift Vs. Automatic...specially when off roading? __________________ Borre

08-08-2005, 04:39 PM	#2
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	Oh no. You'll get about a 50/50 split on this one. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-08-2005, 04:47 PM	#3
Intrepid NE > PA Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Westminster, MA Posts: 2,114	Since Dick wimped out of starting the sht...go for a stick, it s part of the challenge. If you HAVE to have a dcab buy an 05... sitting back to enjoy the show* __________________ '85 4runner: crawler, lockers, swampers, dents

08-08-2005, 04:48 PM	#4
TGilder Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Concord, NC Posts: 108	Where do you drive? If you drive in a lot of stop and go traffic with a lot of stop lights, an automatic is easier to live with. And if you want to make it go fast, I think there's more potential with an auto. Otherwise, get the manual. I think it's more fun to drive and more practical. Plus, as long as you've got a hill, you never have to worry about a dead battery keeping you from getting it started. __________________ 1998 3.4 V6 Limited Extra-cab TRD TRD S/C & Headers (ceramic coated), 300cc injectors, Apexi Super AFC, Split Second boxes OME 881, 32x11.50 BFG A/T KOs ARE MX shell w/ Yakima roof rack, camper kit Inyati sprayed in bed liner (sucks) Westin Safari bar w/PIAA 520s, Smittybilt nerf bars AMSOIL fluids and oil filter JVC HD radio/cd The following are just sitting there waiting to be installed: URD kit Flex-a-lite dual fans I want to buy: Airbox Radiator shroud.

08-08-2005, 05:10 PM	#5
Bryanccfshr Stinks like fish Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 978	If you wanna wheel it, get an auto..You can watch everyone else "challenge"there truck into pieces with sticks and smoking clutches and the crashes and banges that come from them "being challenged" __________________ I've been Jeeped

08-08-2005, 05:18 PM	#6
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	Unless the stick guy happens to have a crawl box. Not that I am all that against slush boxes, I have one in the FJ. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-08-2005, 05:33 PM	#7
Bryanccfshr Stinks like fish Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 978	Yes, a crwler mitigates the sloppy driving of the manuals enough to have a similarity to Finnesse driving . Although a mild crawler gear in an auto would be the best of both worlds. I like the fact that the sluch box can absorb a little bit of the shock loading. __________________ I've been Jeeped

08-08-2005, 05:43 PM	#8
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	That is exactly what I have in the FJ. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-08-2005, 05:53 PM	#9
Bryanccfshr Stinks like fish Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Farmington, NM Posts: 978	In the Hemi boys in the charger voice. "SWEET" __________________ I've been Jeeped

08-08-2005, 05:57 PM	#10
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	With Marlins Toy Box bolted to the back of the T350 with a low stall converter, an Atlas T case and the portal hubs, it should poke right along. I need to come to grips with the tire size I intend to run so I can figure out what ratio to put in the diffs. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-08-2005, 06:08 PM	#11
briansc33 Veteran Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Back in Vegas Posts: 1,332	Although it might be a bit more of a challenge with a manual I beleive it is a bit more fun,and you have more control."Finnesse driving" yes that is the key with a manual in order for you not to smoke the cluch,break things, and tear the piss out of your tires, but is'nt that true with wheelin' in general? Everybody has there favorite, and I respect that, but I will always wheel' a manual. My

08-08-2005, 07:07 PM	#13
7wt nothing special Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Connecticut Posts: 449	I perfer a stick but it does have it's limitations. Works fine for me but then I'm not crawling rocks.

08-08-2005, 07:42 PM	#14
SurfingDrunk hell is other people Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 2,593	if you think about it, don't all the "pro" offroaders use automatics? from prerunner-rockcrawler-monster trucks. __________________ FUCK SURFINGDRUNK "There is nothing good or bad but thinking makes it so". Bill Shakes I love to buy my parts from trdparts4u.com!

08-08-2005, 08:21 PM	#15
Tweeter Ze Moderator Ya Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Mission Viejo CA Posts: 4,580	Damn skippy I'm pretty much the only prerunner I know with an auto __________________ www.chaosfab.com www.foxracing.com www.deaverspring.com www.mullenfabworks.com My truck is for sale!!! *- "When a cop flashes his lights at you he's not really* asking you to pull over. He's challenging you to a race." - The Book of the Piece**

08-09-2005, 10:29 AM	#19
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	I sure hope so but only time will tell. __________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-09-2005, 10:32 AM	#20
Dick Foster Numba 2 Ho Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Los Gatos, NorCal Posts: 10,821	__________________ I admit to being Crazy but I'm not Stupid

08-09-2005, 02:14 PM	#21
borre13 Newbie Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 8	Stick vs. Automatic Thanks guys, I think I'll just stick with my xtra cab, I kind of like the manual shift too...although I've never driven an automatic...maybe I'll go in debt again and get a 2005... __________________ Borre

08-09-2005, 02:24 PM	#22
absolut taco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Taylorsville, Utah Posts: 357	I really like my stick shift...But I don't go off-road that much. I haven't had to 'crawl' over anything yet. On the other hand, I figured how to do a smooth 1-2 shift. Before I shifted at 2-3,000 and it was kinda jerky. Now I shift into 2nd at 5,000 and it's a lot smoother and the truck goes like a raped ape! __________________ 2004 Tacoma Extended Cab 4x4 TRD \| 3.4 Liter V6 \| 5-speed manual

08-29-2005, 08:25 PM	#26
gary briggs Thank You Chuck Norris Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Modesto, Ca Posts: 475	stick gets about 13% more power to the ground the auto i test drove was a dog compared to the stick STICK+LOCKER= FAN-FUCKIN-TASTICK GOOD TIME

08-29-2005, 09:04 PM	#27
atwinda Veteran Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Lake Arrowhead/San Diego, CA Posts: 1,498	So 50/50 as far as wheeling goes.. Do you live in a place where it snows? Diving an auto in the snow gives you slightly less control (which can be overcome, but with a bit of thought). When you start to slide in a stick whats your rection? Push the clutch in right? in an Auto you can't exactly do that; you can however pop it into N and achieve the same thing. The other thing is that I have found the brakes on the autos go out faster.. which makes sense. When you go to stop a stick at a light, you push the clutch in, so that the brakes on only stopping the vehicle.. In an auto when you go to stop the wheels are still getting power through the torque converter, so you have to "fight" that, and try to stop the truck- what I am saying is that it takes more effort to stop an auto as far as brakes go.

08-30-2005, 02:16 PM	#29
Eztrog88 Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,513	Basically, I'm a control freak... You simply have more control with a clutch and 5-speed. Yeah, the auto is a niice brake every once in a while; but I just don't like the idea of pressing a pedal and having a computer decide exactly what you're trying to do. It is a little more of challenge off-road, and onroad for that matter (in snow mostly), but the benefits outway the finess needed IMHO. __________________ Dan 1998 Tacoma Regular Cab 4x4 2.7L - 5-spd TJM Front Bumper Fabtech Coilovers with Fox Racing Shox 1.5" Shackle and Deaver 3-Leaf AAL ATArmor Sliders 31x10.50 BFG ATs (Anyone want to trade for my 3.58's ? )

08-30-2005, 03:30 PM	#30
JaresTaco Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 110	Love the manual tranny!Good on gas and fun to drive! __________________ 2001 Tacoma TRD V6 3" OME lift w/ 33" BFG M/T 4"DeckPlatew/Amsoil & MagnaFlow Catback RR eLockerW/GrayWireMOD Other goodies! CBI Armor X-Trailmaster UT-TTORA Utah4x4Association Treadlightly

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