77 f150 dana 44rs hi pinion - Page 2

hytenor · 11-02-2009, 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FAUX X 4

If it aint locked....... it's broke!

not the truck, dummy...

06silverback · 11-05-2009, 09:05 AM

may have found an axle last night. its a HP44 with drum brakes, so its a pre-1977 axle. i believe its from a '73-'75 ford and i hope so, because i think those had the 1/2" thick axle tube. im researching the numbers stamped on the axle tube today to see what i can find out on it. the numbers are: 10 22 5B4 603689 8

dyogim · 11-05-2009, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

may have found an axle last night. its a HP44 with drum brakes, so its a pre-1977 axle. i believe its from a '73-'75 ford and i hope so, because i think those had the 1/2" thick axle tube. im researching the numbers stamped on the axle tube today to see what i can find out on it. the numbers are: 10 22 5B4 603689 8

Looks to be from a 76 F150. Do a search on BOM 603689-8

Doing a search on dana's sight resulted in nothing. I'm surprised they do not have it listed in their docs. http://www2.dana.com/pdf/XGI.pdf

06silverback · 11-05-2009, 10:51 AM

hell man, you got to it before i did. being at work sucks

wonder what the thickness is on the axle tube??? hopefully 3/8 or 1/2"

hytenor · 11-05-2009, 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

may have found an axle last night. its a HP44 with drum brakes, so its a pre-1977 axle. i believe its from a '73-'75 ford and i hope so, because i think those had the 1/2" thick axle tube. im researching the numbers stamped on the axle tube today to see what i can find out on it. the numbers are: 10 22 5B4 603689 8

3.5" tube = 1/2" wall
brakes can be swapped out for discs, I believe...you're gonna need flat top knuckles anyway.

dyogim · 11-05-2009, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

hell man, you got to it before i did. being at work sucks

wonder what the thickness is on the axle tube??? hopefully 3/8 or 1/2"

I'm at work.... LOL!!!

06silverback · 11-05-2009, 12:35 PM

i think the tube is only 2.75" diameter.....yeah, im planning on going to chevy flat top knuckles for hi-steer and running discs anyways. it was 66" WMS to WMS, so i dont think ill have to shorten it

sprocketdog · 11-05-2009, 02:30 PM

Well I finally got this axle out of the woods and into my garage but i am having a very hard time reading the BOM there is one number that I can barely read. But I am checking on spicer list and am coming up short. I believe the number is 610024 but there is no number listed. The bottom of the 4th number is the only thing I can read so it could be a 0,3,5,6,8,9 but when I research all of these in place of the 4th number it is not matching up. I know it is a ford axle because of the factory hubs. I dont know if it is a 44 or a 60 it seems pretty beefy.

dyogim · 11-05-2009, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sprocketdog

Well I finally got this axle out of the woods and into my garage but i am having a very hard time reading the BOM there is one number that I can barely read. But I am checking on spicer list and am coming up short. I believe the number is 610024 but there is no number listed. The bottom of the 4th number is the only thing I can read so it could be a 0,3,5,6,8,9 but when I research all of these in place of the 4th number it is not matching up. I know it is a ford axle because of the factory hubs. I dont know if it is a 44 or a 60 it seems pretty beefy.

610024 is from a 77 F150.

06silverback · 11-05-2009, 03:43 PM

the axle tube on a 44 will be smaller than a 60 also. if the one i found is a 3/8" thick tube im going to make a truss similar to the TnT truss ive seen for it.

hytenor · 11-05-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

i think the tube is only 2.75" diameter.....yeah, im planning on going to chevy flat top knuckles for hi-steer and running discs anyways. it was 66" WMS to WMS, so i dont think ill have to shorten it

.250 wall
3" is 3/8" wall.

sprocketdog · 11-05-2009, 05:01 PM

I started digging into this housing and found something the looks out of place. I was hoping some one could take a look at this and tell me if there was damage done? It looks to me like a chunk of material is missing. I dont know how since the race sits up against it.[ATTACH]

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06silverback · 11-06-2009, 08:13 AM

all the research i did last night says the '76 is a 2.75" diameter tube and is 3/8" thick on the f150 and 1/2" thick on the f250....unless that's wrong. it went thru all the years from about '71 on.

what do the edges of that chunk look like??? are they irregulary shaped like a chunk cracked and came out??

Alan11116 · 11-06-2009, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by 06silverback

Alan1116: im contemplating an SAS for my 06 DC tacoma. have you had a ny breakage problems with your D44 HP???

sorry just saw this. mine isn't a HP but the only breakage I have had is a stock long side inner shaft. now I have chromo shafts and longfield joints.

sprocketdog · 11-06-2009, 10:28 AM

It is too hard to tell if it is a break it is a very clean one. The bottom alomost has a perfect semi cirle to it. I ran a smalll screw driver over it and you can feel the texture but ont the inside these diffs it has texture every where. I am wondering if I can just pool up some weld to fill it in.

06silverback · 11-06-2009, 11:22 AM

Alan: good option for me or not in your opinion???

hytenor · 11-06-2009, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

all the research i did last night says the '76 is a 2.75" diameter tube and is 3/8" thick on the f150 and 1/2" thick on the f250....unless that's wrong. it went thru all the years from about '71 on.

what do the edges of that chunk look like??? are they irregulary shaped like a chunk cracked and came out??

hmm, that sounds right...scratch my last...

06silverback · 11-09-2009, 08:30 AM

anyone know offhand who might carry a chromoly 30-spline stubb shaft for these axles?? the stock stubb shaft is a 19 spline i think....wanted to ask this before i picked the axle up in the next few days, 'cause i wanted to do this for strength. picking up some reid racing chevy flat top knuckles after this.

hytenor · 11-09-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

anyone know offhand who might carry a chromoly 30-spline stubb shaft for these axles?? the stock stubb shaft is a 19 spline i think....wanted to ask this before i picked the axle up in the next few days, 'cause i wanted to do this for strength. picking up some reid racing chevy flat top knuckles after this.

someone had a pair in the fs section a while back.
Parts Mike can get anything.

Deserttaco · 11-09-2009, 01:52 PM

I doubt that that's damage... It has the same coloring as the rest of the inside of the housing. You need to check to see if it goes anywhere. Any Cracks around it? Any Chance you can get a closer pic with a little better lighting?

Regardless, I wouldn't fill it with weld... It'd difficult to weld to cast correctly, Unless you are a seasoned welder on Cast. I'd pour a little light oil down inside it, make sure it doesn't leak out the other side. If it doesn't. Run it as is. If it leaks, then you probably have other problems.

06silverback · 11-12-2009, 08:11 AM

started tearing down the axle last night....rusty bolts

. anyways, it just so happens mine is a '76 with drum brakes and the brackets are welded on instead of cast into the axle housing, which is good because the '76's were thicker housings than the later ones. gonna start a thread maybe on the build-up of it for those that may think of doing the same later.

dyogim · 11-12-2009, 10:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 06silverback

started tearing down the axle last night....rusty bolts

. anyways, it just so happens mine is a '76 with drum brakes and the brackets are welded on instead of cast into the axle housing, which is good because the '76's were thicker housings than the later ones. gonna start a thread maybe on the build-up of it for those that may think of doing the same later.

My hp44 is from a 77 F150 and I started a build thread back in 08 here: http://www.ttora.com/forum/showthread.php?t=102259

It's not too detailed but, shows a pic of it pretty much complete and under the truck. I'm using Chevy outers and the WMS measurement was 65.75". With 2" spacers on each side, the overall WMS is 69.75".

I think I still have the TR and DL in the garage. It's set-up to have DL attached to the TR. If I can find it and you are interested, let me know and I can get the measurements.

06silverback · 11-17-2009, 08:02 AM

did some more cleaning on the axle last night and "shaved" the bottom of the housing so it wouldnt hang up on anything in reverse...just took cell phone pics.

11-05-2009, 09:05 AM	#32
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	may have found an axle last night. its a HP44 with drum brakes, so its a pre-1977 axle. i believe its from a '73-'75 ford and i hope so, because i think those had the 1/2" thick axle tube. im researching the numbers stamped on the axle tube today to see what i can find out on it. the numbers are: 10 22 5B4 603689 8 __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-05-2009, 10:51 AM	#34
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	hell man, you got to it before i did. being at work sucks wonder what the thickness is on the axle tube??? hopefully 3/8 or 1/2" __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-05-2009, 12:35 PM	#37
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	i think the tube is only 2.75" diameter.....yeah, im planning on going to chevy flat top knuckles for hi-steer and running discs anyways. it was 66" WMS to WMS, so i dont think ill have to shorten it __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-05-2009, 03:43 PM	#40
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	the axle tube on a 44 will be smaller than a 60 also. if the one i found is a 3/8" thick tube im going to make a truss similar to the TnT truss ive seen for it. __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-05-2009, 05:01 PM	#42
sprocketdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pa Posts: 65	I started digging into this housing and found something the looks out of place. I was hoping some one could take a look at this and tell me if there was damage done? It looks to me like a chunk of material is missing. I dont know how since the race sits up against it.[ATTACH][/ATTACH] Attached Thumbnails

11-05-2009, 02:30 PM	#38
sprocketdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pa Posts: 65	Well I finally got this axle out of the woods and into my garage but i am having a very hard time reading the BOM there is one number that I can barely read. But I am checking on spicer list and am coming up short. I believe the number is 610024 but there is no number listed. The bottom of the 4th number is the only thing I can read so it could be a 0,3,5,6,8,9 but when I research all of these in place of the 4th number it is not matching up. I know it is a ford axle because of the factory hubs. I dont know if it is a 44 or a 60 it seems pretty beefy.

11-06-2009, 08:13 AM	#43
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	all the research i did last night says the '76 is a 2.75" diameter tube and is 3/8" thick on the f150 and 1/2" thick on the f250....unless that's wrong. it went thru all the years from about '71 on. what do the edges of that chunk look like??? are they irregulary shaped like a chunk cracked and came out?? __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-06-2009, 10:28 AM	#45
sprocketdog Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Central Pa Posts: 65	It is too hard to tell if it is a break it is a very clean one. The bottom alomost has a perfect semi cirle to it. I ran a smalll screw driver over it and you can feel the texture but ont the inside these diffs it has texture every where. I am wondering if I can just pool up some weld to fill it in.

11-06-2009, 11:22 AM	#46
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	Alan: good option for me or not in your opinion??? __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-09-2009, 08:30 AM	#48
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	anyone know offhand who might carry a chromoly 30-spline stubb shaft for these axles?? the stock stubb shaft is a 19 spline i think....wanted to ask this before i picked the axle up in the next few days, 'cause i wanted to do this for strength. picking up some reid racing chevy flat top knuckles after this. __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-09-2009, 01:52 PM	#50
Deserttaco www.deserttaco.com Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Surprise AZ Posts: 1,748	I doubt that that's damage... It has the same coloring as the rest of the inside of the housing. You need to check to see if it goes anywhere. Any Cracks around it? Any Chance you can get a closer pic with a little better lighting? Regardless, I wouldn't fill it with weld... It'd difficult to weld to cast correctly, Unless you are a seasoned welder on Cast. I'd pour a little light oil down inside it, make sure it doesn't leak out the other side. If it doesn't. Run it as is. If it leaks, then you probably have other problems.

11-12-2009, 08:11 AM	#51
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	started tearing down the axle last night....rusty bolts . anyways, it just so happens mine is a '76 with drum brakes and the brackets are welded on instead of cast into the axle housing, which is good because the '76's were thicker housings than the later ones. gonna start a thread maybe on the build-up of it for those that may think of doing the same later. __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

11-17-2009, 08:02 AM	#53
06silverback Veteran Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbia, MO Posts: 900	did some more cleaning on the axle last night and "shaved" the bottom of the housing so it wouldnt hang up on anything in reverse...just took cell phone pics. __________________ 2006 DC TRD, 6" ProComp Suspension lift, 35" BFG KM2's, Blackrock 909 wheels, 4.56's, All Pro Plate bumper, custom sliders with 15 degree kickout, AFE CAI, URD MAF calibration unit, factory E-locker in rear, FOA coilovers, Camburg UCA's, Rear Alcan's with flipped shackles and orbit eyes, custom tube bed, front ARB air locker ....contemplating SAS

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