Manual Tranny Lube?

rivethead242 · 11-03-2009, 02:30 PM

Ive tried doing a search but didn't see anything. I remember reading somewhere on here about this issue, so i hate to bring it up again. But i am looking to change my tranny lub. trying to decide whether to go with gl-4 or gl-5. what is your guys take?

firebox40dash5 · 11-03-2009, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rivethead242

Ive tried doing a search but didn't see anything

Really?

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Originally Posted by rivethead242

so i hate to bring it up again.

You should.

The FSM states GL-4 or GL-5. Most people who don't do their own maintenance (and many who do) are probably driving around with GL-5 oil in their tranny, and you don't hear about an epidemic of Toyota transmissions eating synchros.

If you want to be on the safe side, run a GL-4 oil anyway. It won't hurt anything. I like Redline personally, and they have either MTL or MT-90 rated GL-4, or 75W90 Nonslip rated GL-5. I've been using 75W90NS for a while now, and my transmission is still alive.

RedRunnertc · 11-03-2009, 05:34 PM

http://www.4crawler.com/4x4/index.sh...ntheticGearOil

ThunderOne · 11-03-2009, 05:39 PM

GL-5 doesn't really matter. I'm running dino Valvoline 75W-90 right now, no complaints.

rivethead242 · 11-03-2009, 06:02 PM

how about amsoil? i run amsoil for engine oil. and for my 2-stroke dirtbike. i know they are top line when it comes to engine oil...but how about tranny?

pburruel · 11-03-2009, 06:54 PM

I use Amsoil GL-4 and it shifts very nice. That is what I will use from now on. Amsoil is all that I use on my truck.

partyman66 · 11-03-2009, 07:47 PM

I use GL-4 only.

ThunderOne · 11-03-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by pburruel

I use Amsoil GL-4 and it shifts very nice. That is what I will use from now on. Amsoil is all that I use on my truck.

Might try that next interval. Can't seem to find any decent synthetics at the local auto parts stores.. Mobil 1 gear oil is a little sketchy from what I've heard

rivethead242 · 11-03-2009, 10:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ThunderOne

Might try that next interval. Can't seem to find any decent synthetics at the local auto parts stores.. Mobil 1 gear oil is a little sketchy from what I've heard

thats what i have in now, and im not to impressed with it....

partyman66 · 11-03-2009, 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by pburruel

I use Amsoil GL-4 and it shifts very nice. That is what I will use from now on. Amsoil is all that I use on my truck.

Me too.. works great. I tried Redline MT-90 at first, and it worked great for about 6 months, and then shifting because less smooth after that... even though I didn't put that many miles on the new fluid. I switched it out for the Amsoil GL-4 gear oil in the tranny and transfer case and haven't looked back since.

rivethead242 · 11-04-2009, 12:04 AM

alright sold. amsoil gl-4 it is. thanks for the input guys. appreciate it!

Elton · 11-04-2009, 12:06 AM

im useing mt-90 works good for me

ThunderOne · 11-04-2009, 12:40 AM

Amsoil is more readily available than Redline (pretty much have to order online)

rivethead242 · 11-04-2009, 12:56 AM

gotta order Amsoil online as well...no stores carry it out here. have to go through a private dealer who sells it out of their garage, or buy it online...cheaper just to buy it online!

firebox40dash5 · 11-04-2009, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderOne

Amsoil is more readily available than Redline (pretty much have to order online)

WTF are you smoking? Every Napa and Carquest around here carries Redline, and many local chains and independent shops as well.

Amsoil is carried by, um, err... the same guy trying to sell you prepaid legal! It might be decent oil, but it's just a fawking pyramid scheme...

ThunderOne · 11-04-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rivethead242

gotta order Amsoil online as well...no stores carry it out here. have to go through a private dealer who sells it out of their garage, or buy it online...cheaper just to buy it online!

There's a local dealer next to the CarQuest in town. It's the only one I've seen, and I just discovered it a couple weeks ago.

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Originally Posted by firebox40dash5

WTF are you smoking? Every Napa and Carquest around here carries Redline, and many local chains and independent shops as well.

Amsoil is carried by, um, err... the same guy trying to sell you prepaid legal! It might be decent oil, but it's just a fawking pyramid scheme...

I haven't checked Napa or Carquest down here, but I'm pretty damn sure they don't carry it. I can check though. I know that Advance Auto Parts, O'Reilly's, and AutoZone do not carry it, because I've looked there. All they have is Mobil 1 (just started stocking it at AutoZone), Coastal, and Valvoline dino. O'Reilly's has Castrol synthetic and a couple of different blends.

Shakerhood · 11-04-2009, 11:39 PM

I tried the Amsoil junk in the Tranny in my old 2000, it was so bad in the cold weather that I would have to shift from 1st to 3rd gear until the Truck warmed up.

ThunderOne · 11-05-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Shakerhood

I tried the Amsoil junk in the Tranny in my old 2000, it was so bad in the cold weather that I would have to shift from 1st to 3rd gear until the Truck warmed up.

God... now what am I supposed to do.. haha

partyman66 · 11-05-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Shakerhood

I tried the Amsoil junk in the Tranny in my old 2000, it was so bad in the cold weather that I would have to shift from 1st to 3rd gear until the Truck warmed up.

Which Amsoil gear oil did you use?

I used the "Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)"

I've had my Amsoil in my truck for the past 2 winters and it's been awesome. We get some coldass winters here too.. some days it's between -2 to 5 degrees F in the morning when I leave for work.

ThunderOne · 11-05-2009, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by partyman66

Which Amsoil gear oil did you use?

I used the "Synthetic Manual Transmission and Transaxle Gear Lube (75W-90) API GL-4 (MTGQT)"

I've had my Amsoil in my truck for the past 2 winters and it's been awesome. We get some coldass winters here too.. some days it's between -2 to 5 degrees F in the morning when I leave for work.

yeah... I'm probably gonna get this. It seems like it would be great. The dino shit I have now is already getting sketchy and it's only gotten to about 40 degrees here.

rivethead242 · 11-05-2009, 01:46 PM

i live in so cal. so we dont get the cold weather....summer year round! i have mobil 1 in now. and im not too happy with it. i just put it in a few months ago. i wish i would have done some research and found out how shitty it was so i didn't waste my money! oh well, lesson learned.

RedRunnertc · 11-05-2009, 02:12 PM

What do you notice that makes you not like it?

rivethead242 · 11-05-2009, 02:15 PM

well i noticed shifting into second required a substancial amount of force, much more than what i had in before (which i was undertain about...i bought it used). as well as downshifting into first....granted thats pretty standard across the board with taco's unless your at a dead stop. shifting into all other gears also seemed to take more work. when its colder out (cold for san diego....) its extremely noticable. and the weather we have here shouldn't affect it that much!

Shakerhood · 11-06-2009, 02:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rivethead242

well i noticed shifting into second required a substancial amount of force, much more than what i had in before (which i was undertain about...i bought it used). as well as downshifting into first....granted thats pretty standard across the board with taco's unless your at a dead stop. shifting into all other gears also seemed to take more work. when its colder out (cold for san diego....) its extremely noticable. and the weather we have here shouldn't affect it that much!

In the Cold with the Amsoil 75-90 I could not even get it into 2nd gear no matter how hard I tried to force it. After I drove about 10 Miles and it warmed up I was able to get it in 2nd, switched back to regular old Dino Oil and it shifted much better.

partyman66 · 11-06-2009, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by rivethead242

well i noticed shifting into second required a substancial amount of force, ...... as well as downshifting into first....granted thats pretty standard across the board with taco's unless your at a dead stop.

That's pretty much pretty standard with all cars that have a manual transmission. The best thing to do is rev match(in any gear really). Generally you only need first gear when you're at a dead stop or if towing something... even with the weakass 3RZ motor and slightly larger than stock tires.

ThunderOne · 11-07-2009, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by partyman66

That's pretty much pretty standard with all cars that have a manual transmission. The best thing to do is rev match(in any gear really). Generally you only need first gear when you're at a dead stop or if towing something... even with the weakass 3RZ motor and slightly larger than stock tires.

does amsoil make a dino gear oil? Seems like it would be a good middle. or maybe an amsoil blend..

partyman66 · 11-07-2009, 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ThunderOne

does amsoil make a dino gear oil? Seems like it would be a good middle. or maybe an amsoil blend..

Not sure man... I'd just go with the full synthetic anyways. If you are curious as to what they sell, you can just look on their website and see what they offer for gear oils... they list all their products online.

Amsoil makes pretty damn good oil across the board.

rivethead242 · 11-07-2009, 08:56 AM

you can also order a catalog from them for free.

ShortRound · 11-07-2009, 02:55 PM

when it gets below 45F i see very noticeable differences in shift effort into 2nd. any colder than that until the trans is warm I can double clutch before shifting to 2nd and that for whatever reason makes it go easier. I use amsoil, first time I added it I used the one called manual transmission fluid or whatever, couple months ago all I could get quickly (locally) was the 7590. First gear is just a bitch 90% of the time.

steve604 · 11-08-2009, 03:31 AM

i am glad i came across this because my tranny has become a bitch to shift for the first 10 or 15 minutes of driving ever since i put quaker state 75w90 gl5 in it.

after reading through all of these posts i am having a hard time figuring out what i need.

it looks like i want gl4? what is dino oil?

i just want to be able to shift it without having to ram it into gears and without having to warm it up for 1/2 hour.

11-03-2009, 02:30 PM	#1
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	Manual Tranny Lube? Ive tried doing a search but didn't see anything. I remember reading somewhere on here about this issue, so i hate to bring it up again. But i am looking to change my tranny lub. trying to decide whether to go with gl-4 or gl-5. what is your guys take? __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-03-2009, 05:34 PM	#3
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11-03-2009, 05:39 PM	#4
ThunderOne Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 1,799	GL-5 doesn't really matter. I'm running dino Valvoline 75W-90 right now, no complaints. __________________ aka Mitchell (TTORA's Official Mall Crawler ) 2004 Black Tacoma 3.4L 4x4 Ext. Cab 5 Speed Pro Comp 8069, 16x8, 4" BS "Notorious" RevengeFab Sliders Toytec Bilstein/Eibach coilover lift with Custom 2.5" Alcans 10" Bilstein 5150s in rear, stainless ext. brake line 265/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs (Load Range C) DDM Tuning 35watt 4500k hi/low HID's Slightly leaky rear main God bless America! (..Please) ROLL TIDE 10-0

11-03-2009, 06:02 PM	#5
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	how about amsoil? i run amsoil for engine oil. and for my 2-stroke dirtbike. i know they are top line when it comes to engine oil...but how about tranny? __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-03-2009, 07:47 PM	#7
partyman66 Veteran Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: SE Massachusetts Posts: 1,422	I use GL-4 only. __________________ -2004 Infiniti G35 Coupe 6MT, Diamond Graphite/Graphite, Navigation, Aero Package, Premium, Brembo Brakes with Project Mu B-Force Pads, Splash Guards, Aluminum Pedals, Z-Tube and Amsoil EA Air Filter, 3/8" Motordyne Plenum Spacer, 18" Wheels w/ Falken Fk-452's 245/40/18 - 255/45/18 -2001 Toyota Tacoma Stepside SR5 5-Speed 4X4 with Nerf Bars, Bedliner and Tonneau Cover, Amsoil EA Nanofiber Air Filter, and Bridgestone Dueler AT Revo 275/70/16 Rubber, and a ScanGauge II

11-03-2009, 06:54 PM	#6
pburruel Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 357	I use Amsoil GL-4 and it shifts very nice. That is what I will use from now on. Amsoil is all that I use on my truck.

11-04-2009, 12:04 AM	#11
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	alright sold. amsoil gl-4 it is. thanks for the input guys. appreciate it! __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-04-2009, 12:06 AM	#12
Elton Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Siletz,Oregon Posts: 154	im useing mt-90 works good for me __________________ 98 4runner SR5 3.4L 5spd 4x4 E-Locker Mods

11-04-2009, 12:40 AM	#13
ThunderOne Veteran Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Tuscaloosa, AL Posts: 1,799	Amsoil is more readily available than Redline (pretty much have to order online) __________________ aka Mitchell (TTORA's Official Mall Crawler ) 2004 Black Tacoma 3.4L 4x4 Ext. Cab 5 Speed Pro Comp 8069, 16x8, 4" BS "Notorious" RevengeFab Sliders Toytec Bilstein/Eibach coilover lift with Custom 2.5" Alcans 10" Bilstein 5150s in rear, stainless ext. brake line 265/75/16 Goodyear Duratracs (Load Range C) DDM Tuning 35watt 4500k hi/low HID's Slightly leaky rear main God bless America! (..Please) ROLL TIDE 10-0

11-04-2009, 12:56 AM	#14
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	gotta order Amsoil online as well...no stores carry it out here. have to go through a private dealer who sells it out of their garage, or buy it online...cheaper just to buy it online! __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-04-2009, 11:39 PM	#17
Shakerhood Veteran Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,656	I tried the Amsoil junk in the Tranny in my old 2000, it was so bad in the cold weather that I would have to shift from 1st to 3rd gear until the Truck warmed up.

11-05-2009, 01:46 PM	#21
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	i live in so cal. so we dont get the cold weather....summer year round! i have mobil 1 in now. and im not too happy with it. i just put it in a few months ago. i wish i would have done some research and found out how shitty it was so i didn't waste my money! oh well, lesson learned. __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-05-2009, 02:12 PM	#22
RedRunnertc CO Chapter Prez Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Boulder/Longmont, CO Posts: 13,571	What do you notice that makes you not like it? __________________ President - CO Chapter Founding President - OH Chapter '93 4Runner lockers, armor, tcases, & stuff '96 Impala SS - my own personal cop car Check out pix at www.4wheelingoh.shutterfly.com/action

11-05-2009, 02:15 PM	#23
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	well i noticed shifting into second required a substancial amount of force, much more than what i had in before (which i was undertain about...i bought it used). as well as downshifting into first....granted thats pretty standard across the board with taco's unless your at a dead stop. shifting into all other gears also seemed to take more work. when its colder out (cold for san diego....) its extremely noticable. and the weather we have here shouldn't affect it that much! __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-07-2009, 08:56 AM	#28
rivethead242 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: San Diego Posts: 63	you can also order a catalog from them for free. __________________ 04 v6 4x4 with Camburg UCA, swayaway 2.5 co, deaver custom 9 pack w/ icon resi's, BFG AT 32", KNN/Flowmaster. Custom skidplate/sliders

11-07-2009, 02:55 PM	#29
ShortRound Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: South Central Va. Posts: 38	when it gets below 45F i see very noticeable differences in shift effort into 2nd. any colder than that until the trans is warm I can double clutch before shifting to 2nd and that for whatever reason makes it go easier. I use amsoil, first time I added it I used the one called manual transmission fluid or whatever, couple months ago all I could get quickly (locally) was the 7590. First gear is just a bitch 90% of the time. __________________ 98 Reg cab, 33 BFG MT KM's, Fabtech performance coilovers, Fabtech shocks, 3'' body lift, K&N drop-in, custom fender work from ball joints, heavy right foot

11-08-2009, 03:31 AM	#30
steve604 Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Abbotsford, BC Posts: 201	i am glad i came across this because my tranny has become a bitch to shift for the first 10 or 15 minutes of driving ever since i put quaker state 75w90 gl5 in it. after reading through all of these posts i am having a hard time figuring out what i need. it looks like i want gl4? what is dino oil? i just want to be able to shift it without having to ram it into gears and without having to warm it up for 1/2 hour. __________________ Drive a hybrid, I need your gas. '04 Tacoma Ext. Cab SR5 TRD 4x4 allpro bilstein/eibach coilovers, uca's, 3" rear springs + 1 1/4" lift shackles, arb bumper, trd muffler, 1200lb marlin crawler clutch more to come...

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